Vineyard / Missional / Emerging

A Couple of months back we got an email asking us a few questions. I’ve paraphrased the questions. Plus the answers I’ve deleted any names, but here it is….

What does it mean to be in the Vineyard and be part of the emerging / missional movement?

How does this look like in our church?

How does “community” mean to Ranges Community Church that is different to other churches?

Historically the growth model of the Vineyard has been a “church growth” perspective –   Wimber himself was well primed on the topic having taught it, and worked with some of the best in the late 70′s 80′s

We try to follow a missional model basically –  Christology defines missiology defines Ecclesiology  (Alan Hirsch has written some great material on this).

In other words how you define Christ with define how you reach people, and this will help you define the way in which you do Church. (Personally I would rather how you define the Trinity).

Church Growth model works best reaching people where there is some background with Christinity eg went to sunday school, next door neigbours were Christians etc.  We can no longer assume that most people have had this kind of background.  The missional model does not require for people to have to have background knowledge of Christianity.

For me a good way of trying to picture how this works is thinking if Jesus came to the Chinese instead of the Israel what would it look like, or say the Incas in South America, or a people group that live in Siberia…Or in our own culture Australians that have never been to church except for a funeral?

There are a few things that we do a bit differently to some other Vineyards. To be honest everyone got a bit tired of worship songs so we often do more tactile stuff in worship like painting or working with clay or meditation.
The messages are also more of a conversation in which we try to get people to give feedback. Or split into groups.  There is a sense in which we explore the bible and aspects of the Christian life together.  We are often more facilitatory rather than the one who has to have all the answers.

Our underlying philosophy is different for a number of reasons
1) because of what I’ve already mentioned (adopting a missional stance)
2) Neil Cole who wrote Organic church writes that we have to increase the bar in what it means to be disciples and lower the bar of what it means to be a church.  This simple thought has been very influential for us, not to mention rather freeing when it comes to Sundays, and very challenging when it comes to every day life.  We like to spend time with people – lots of phone contact…  seeing how people are going and doing life together is more important than programs to us. To be honest we are to busy to run any programs anyway.  We both work part time and now have two small children.
If someone wants to start something in the community we bless it but say “stay where you are, don’t bring them to  church”. For example we are about to start giving away sausages at a skate park. If the kids are interested we will ask them where they would like to meet if they wanted to explore anything further.   Church will be wherever they meet – they don’t have to fit into our Sunday mould.    We want to make disciples in their own community not bring them to a new one.
3) The Centre set model holds very strongly for us. I’m sure that you have heard it. Having non christian friends and hanging out with them is really important if it is to work!  Most Christians we meet really don’t have any relationships with non-christians, or the relationships are superficial with a clear agenda attached.  So the Centre Set model is worthless. Make sure that you get to know someone who is not a Christian in a deep way!

We are pretty convinced the Western Church has to do some radical changes. One of the things that Christina and I have decided is that we don’t want to get paid.

This is important to us for the following reasons:
-Paid clergy in 90% of cases end up keeping the status quo.
-The paid clergy end up doing most of the work. (We don’t!)
-Without been paid and others knowing, people pick up the slack and use their gifts more. (This is the case for our community where almost everyone contributes in some way to the life of the church, both on and beyond the Sunday gathering)
-We would like to think a model of church that isn’t reliant on money is more readily reproduced.   The research suggests that  with the “Church growth model a church without a full time wage will not grow, and  Bi vocational church growth models usually result in burnout!
We have been growing every year. It has been slow but steady. In many ways we have not had great expectations of what we should look like other that a few changed lives and this is slowly taking place.
We have pretty strong boundaries. We only have one evening out per week for church related activity – and that happens to be a discussion group at the local pub.  We have a pastoral meeting fortnightly and that is it.  Between us we work one to two days per week, and of course Sunday mornings.   I think you have do to this.

Even though we do stuff differently, the Vineyard “Values”  are broad and we sit in them pretty well.

The essence of community is that we have a set of basic values in which we hold in “common”. For us it is wanting to follow Jesus. That is where we have our “Unity”.

I think that our involvement with Forge has stretched our imagination of what church could be, and as a result we have slowly moved away from simply modeling ourselves on other Vineyard churches that we have experienced.  The key ingredients are there – worship, prayer, seeking the Holy Spirit, teaching etc – but we are exploring different ways of expressing these things on a Sunday, and in contexts other than the Sunday morning service.  Being able to relate meaningfully to our community a the range of contexts is important to us.  Hence meeting at the local pub and forming relationships with the regulars, involvement with an environmental group etc.  Most of our community ventures are “pre-church” for want of a better way of putting it.  We are building relationships, sharing stories etc, and trying to be sensitive to how the Christian journey can be explored and shared in each of those contexts without dragging people out of their settings into church.  It has been slow for us.  I have heard amazing stories of God moving sovereignly to grow Christian communities in an incredible way but our community is kind of like hard ground,  any progress is slow.  However, we have managed to form some good relationships with people who don’t know Jesus, and have increasing opportunities to explore spirituality with them.  We are not looking to attract other Christians, although it has been wonderful to see Christians who live on the mountain choose to connect in with us instead of driving to churches away from the mountain.  There is something about expressing, sharing and growing in your faith in your own community, amongst your neighbors.  We do as much locally as we can.  Our local cafe brings us our coffee order without even asking, and knows that our toddler needs her babycino quickly to avoid crankiness!

~ by scott on June 30, 2008.

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